BRAVO !!!

But, why is this NOT on the OS3 .pdf ???

This is HUGE news, and a great and very welcomed addition/enhancement !!!

It's weird how Ketron sometimes advertises stuff that's not yet available on AUDYA yet,
BUT then when they add some KEY features, they fail to talk or write about it.

Maybe they figure their customers enjoy these "Easter Egg" hunts.



Jerryghr

i wanna hear these new chords in action,
then i will be a believer !!!

play these chords with old OS2
then play these chords with new OS3

and then i'll be happy, and so will Diki...

Diki,

you busy practicing your "complex" chords ?? :-)

Guys, you are getting ahead of yourselves. If you noticed, on another thread, AJ reported that the new chords were a combination of SOME new audio data (but hasn't specified how much, yet), and re-worked MIDI guitar files.

He also hasn't yet explained where the new audio data goes (does it use up the sampler RAM?), how quick it loads (if you segue from one style to another), or very much of anything, yet.

Truth is, for this to be a complete addition of audio loops for these additional chords (dim, aug, sus, 11th and 9th) it ought to add over DOUBLE the ROM that is already in the Audya (because what's in there only covers three chord types - maj, min and 7th). Somehow, I just don't see it...

And, bottom line... it STILL doesn't change the 'preset' nature of all the audio loops. Drums, bass, guitars, whatever the loop does, you can't edit it, change sounds (nylon guitar instead of steel, for instance), change the kick drum pattern, use a brush kit instead of sticks, etc.. I tend to like doing all that!

If it WERE a full addition of new guitar loops to cover the holes in the current selection, yes, it WOULD be a removal of one of my primary 'musical' issues with the Audya, but even if it does (which, from what AJ said, I disbelieve), it still doesn't address my issues of firstly, being essentially a 'preset' style arranger, and secondly, the obscene cost point.

Even my neolithic G70 is STILL doing the job to mine and my audiences' satisfaction. When this technology finally matures, gets some decent competition, and the prices fall to mere mortal levels, I might by that time be ready for a move. But that day seems a long way off. Gaining another degree of realism, at the expense of a lot of editing capability still doesn't seem to be a net gain, at least for me...

Here's the reply from AJ to the question





Thread's here, if you want to read more: http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/020186.html

I just hope that the additional chords in audio that are being added were recorded at the same session as the original maj, min, 7th ones were. It would be a BEAR to match new ones with old ones, even with the same player...

... and on the status of styles. You can edit styles on the AUDYA (change the drums of a style from Techno to Brush kits, replace an Audio Standard kit with another Audio Latin kit or a Midi kit or both (Drm 1 & 2), replace the clean Audio guitar (chord 5) with a nylon audio guitar or a midi guitar all together ... etc. In this case the notes are changed as well (with audio) or maintained (with midi).

You can take a Merengue style e.g., replace the AUDIO Latin drum with an AUDIO Standard Drum loop, replace the Bass with a new bass loop, replace Chord 5 (Audio guitar) with a new Audio guitar or midi in all cases ... or replace the audio drum with a midi/groove drum.

What you cannot do with audio is e.g replace an audio loop with another that plays the same 'notes' as the previous (which you can do with Midi anyway), but it still gives you tons of choices to choose from.

Thanks,

AJ

for ME, i'd rather have the REALISM, over endless editing capabilities.
what's the use in listening to the "tin" drums as on a Tyros?
what's the use of being able to replace the midi electric guitar with a midi nylon?
or being able to add reverb to a midi snare drum?
or changing that midi kick drum to another midi kicj drum?

it will NEVER give you that LIVE sound

and this is what the AUDYA gives us...

it's all about the SOUND, this is what my audience hears,,,
i want it to sound GREAT. Period...



[This message has been edited by leezone (edited 10-07-2009).]

It might have been nice (and possibly something to think about for future styles) to have put up triggers on the acoustic set the audio drummer used, and actually HAVE a MIDI version of the same groove. Because, while I completely get your point, it is by no means the same thing as liking a groove, but wanting it played on a different sound.

ANY arranger (or at least most of them) can substitute one groove or pattern for another in the drums, guitar, bass, etc. (although they do it in MIDI), but what the Audya can't do (as you somewhat dismissively pointed out at the end) is take a groove you DO like, and play it on anything else.

This is one of the PRIMARY things that most 'tweakers' tend to do (it's certainly the easiest way to make a style fresh!).